On Nov 25, 2022 in the English instructor class, Master Chen Zhonghua mentioned that Grandmaster Hong was there with Grandmaster Chen Fake for 14 years from 1930 to 1944 before he moved to Jinan. Many students came for a short time to learn from Grandmaster Chen Fake. Grandmaster Hong was there every day listening to Grandmaster Chen Fake teaching others, Grandmaster Hong would wait for everyone else to be gone for today, before he would get his chance to work with Grandmaster Chen Fake. Master Chen Zhonghua said Grandmaster Hong was always there compared to others who would come and go. I just realized in my professional life, I was in the same database product for over 20 years, although I was working directly in certain components, I actually knew them well compared to others who didn't have as many years of experience.
